My Lead System Pro Review

by Daniel McGonagle on September 7, 2009 · 56 comments

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I joined My Lead System Pro because they promised customized branding pages for my network marketing business and my team members.

So right off the bat I was impressed just for the very nature of what they were offering. They weren’t offering rehashed and bashed “leads” but the chance to do what 95% of all network marketers don’t do: brand themselves and do it with video landing pages and video squeeze pages.

Also, this isn’t some nonsensical “funded proposal” whereby you’re building the list of the company itself instead of your own. You build your own list with their system and the only people who end up on MLM Lead system Pro’s list are the people who join and use their service.

However, My Lead system Pro doesn’t really do what I thought it was going to do for me or my team.

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Since I’m not a huge fan of making video squeeze and video landing pages due to technical aspects more than vanity and self -consciousness reasons, I was hoping that MLSP would help me do what they promised to do: brand myself with their widely advertised “custom branding pages”…

MLSP doesn’t really brand you as a leader though and doesn’t give you any customized landing pages, squeeze pages or anything that brands you, period.

NOTE: MLSP will tell you that the branding comes into play when people see that you’re giving them good information via MLSP’s emails and having someone else’s face and image talking on your “customized pages…   Nah, don’t BS me here, this isn’t branding of me, it’s branding of Norbert and MLSP.

The only way to brand yourself is to have other promoting you and your se4rvices and products like all of Norbert’s affiliates are doing at My Lead System Pro.

MLSP does help you build your list with nice video landing pages and video landing pages.

MLSP does give you 28 or so follow-up messages that help sell the MLSP system to you while also directing your subscribers to some conference calls about network marketing and what-not….

MLSP gives you every single tool you could every want to promote….MLSP.

There are NO resources for making a custom branding page to truly brand yourself.

There are some ridiculous high-ticket upsells that you, the referring affiliate who brought people into MLSP do not get a commission of.

Also, the membership program doesn’t offer you a good chunk of their monthly fee, and you cannot be an affiliate of MLSP without being a paid member, which means it’s really not an affiliate program, just more of a “got you by the balls here” program.

Their training is good and their overall methodology works well, for a funded proposal that makes you money form the 95% of the people who will never join your primary program, but would join MLSP in higher percentages and line your pockets with membership commissions and commission for the affiliate programs recommended to your signups from their back office

My Lead System Pro’s training is VERY VERY good and is given on an ongoing basis which means it’s worth it for the $47.00/month…

NOTE: If you join MLSP don’t get the PPC software since I heard it was outdated, and you can contact me if you want to save well over $1,000.00 on their outsourcing system offering from their crew in the Phillipines.

If/when you join, realize that the affiliate commission percentages are paltry, you don’t get any cut of the upsells mentioned above, and this system doesn’t help brand yourself in this industry except as an affiliate of MLSP.

Furthermore, this is a FANTASTIC money-making program to be in because of the back-end self-funded proposal they have set up for everyone who joins MLSP via your affiliate link.

So, my review on My Lead system Pro is mixed because of false advertising but it has a lot of back end stuff that will definitely help you in the long run, like monetizing your lists more, and ongoing training.

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1 Rob September 22, 2009 at 7:47 pm

Good review, I signed up for mlmlsp and canceled pretty quick, I did’nt like the way they don’t really brand myself but I use their pages.

2 admin September 29, 2009 at 12:48 pm

Hey Rob, thanks for the feedback.

I use their pages, too but at some point you’re just another look-alike, MLSP squeeze page with Norbert’s video on your squeeze page, so who’s really getting branded there?

However, it’s great for getting a ready-made funded proposal going for anyone who’s interested in doing network marketing the right way, and the training is pretty awesome, I must say, some real gems are being revealed on their weekly calls

3 Barbie October 3, 2009 at 7:25 pm

Ya know, I’ve been with MLSP for almost a year, and in the beginning, I really thought this was the answer to MLMers prayers. But aside from being in total agreement with what your posts mentions, specifically that Collectively, the members are only building MLSP’s brand to be even bigger and bigger (which is why I believe they were able to recruit SO MANY people into the MLM they just affiliated with)

There is too much information Overload and it’s leaving alot of the ‘NEwbies” and ‘Regular’ people who just want to build an organization without all the limelight, behind.

And quite frankly, I’m not really sold that people are actually building their MLM’s using the system. Correct me if I’m wrong!

This is why I switched systems.. The one I switched to is designed for ‘Average folks’ Who systematically want to learn how to build and online business and plug in their MLM, in a Step-By-Step, take you by the hand format.

You can see for yourself here: http://www.MoneyMakingSystem250K.com

I think the MLSP guys are brilliant in that the technology behind the system is barnone, but again, you are collectively branding MLSP and the 3 Owners.

Great Post and I congratulate you for hitting the Top Positioning in Google for the MLSP Keywords so that more people can find this…

4 Deleted by accident October 4, 2009 at 9:02 am

Hey Guys,

I noticed that the post said you do not get to brand yourself, the system brands Norbert. Totally incorrect! You are supposed to watch the video and get some ideas, then replace the video with your own.

Also the webinars are awesome and full of great content. I have been able to brand myself and generate leads without even spending any money on Marketing. This is by far the number one rated attraction marketing system on the planet and you guys should really stick to a marketing technique for two months before you make an opinion.

5 admin October 4, 2009 at 9:05 am

Hey Barbie, the commenter after you suggested you try this for 2 months before being worthy of a real opinion on the matter, but you said you tried it for a year so I guess that entitles you to an opinion, albeit somewhat agenda-driven since you’re recommending a compettitor’s product in your comment

I think this system’s OK, like I’ve always said the training’s fantastic and pretty much takes any teaching, training , education etc… that I’d do for my team members and takes that burden off my shoulders.

Just join MLMLS Pro I say, quicker cash than if you did things on your own, funded proposal, all the training you need etc..

6 admin October 4, 2009 at 9:18 am

To anonymous,

Every tool for promoting the funded proposal as it is out of the box is made available to you, and yet there’s mountains to climb if I want to replace my video on my video squeeze page and host my page on my websites.

So let’s say I’m using some drop cards with my name on them, then I send people to a video squeeze page that says , “Hi my name is Norbert….” doesn’t that confuse the people who have my card, see my name is NOT Norbert..?

So the solution, as I realized right away and as you pointed out too, is to make your own video for your squeeze page.

BTW, anyone can scrape the html code off my vid squeeze page, put it on their own site, change the optin code, copy my emails and have the same system for free.

Except of course they’re promoting affiliate products via their emails, not a funded proposal with a recurring monthly fee going into everyone’s pockets

Also, my main gripe is there’s not one iota of information on how to make the videos they lightly suggest you make to truly brand yourself:

Simple to provide video production tips, like

put lights behind you
buy wireless mic (60 bucks)
use Sony Webby HD (200 bucks)
use a script (free to do)
use a tripod,costs less than 20 bucks
be in happy serene state of mind prior to shooting vid (free to do)

Not being made to jump through hoops and having the tools and resources to brand yourself 100%….

Priceless…

Dan

P.S. Read my reply to Barbie’s post, I think MLM LS Pro is good for what it actually does, they just need to improve upon providing a customized video landing page.

.

7 Bill November 22, 2009 at 12:31 am

I’ve been using MLM Lead System Pro for 2 weeks and it has been Awesome!

Everyone on the board who says you are unable to brand yourself using this is completely wrong, I’ve built 3 capture pages so far with my own video’s. One of them is completely customized.

Most people who start a system like MLM Lead System Pro never take the time to learn how they work. The getting started section videos make it very easy to use and have saved me a ton of time.

MLM Lead System Pro will be just like network marketing, 97% of the people who actually get involved don’t take the time to learn how to do it so they complain to everyone that it doesn’t work.

Here are my 3 sites i’ve built so far.

8 MLM Lead System Pro Review November 22, 2009 at 11:33 pm

Bill, I’m in agreement with you, it is customizable but not out of the box, but nothing is, I guess. You can’t customize something without user action of some sort,

9 Barbara Williams December 4, 2009 at 8:58 pm

So far so good with MLSP. Time will tell.

Barbara Williams

10 Barbara Williams December 4, 2009 at 9:03 pm

I do appreciate the comments and the well written article. There are definitely things to consider. I am moving forward with mlsp and time will tell if I get ROI and increase knowledge. I will comment again in a few months. I am still researching from the inside out.

Barbara Williams

11 Gail Morrow December 17, 2009 at 10:27 am

I wanted to respond to Rob! Maybe you did not check out the back office throughly enough as you can use those videos until you have made your own, with custom videos, custom text and no one would ever know you did not develop this system yourself. What if anything are you using now?

gail morrow

12 Tim December 17, 2009 at 9:28 pm

well I use it and I love it from the first day I got mlsp I did all the pages with my wording and my pictures and my videos. No one can brand you but you. If your looking for someone to brand you then your not much of a marketer. It takes work and I find it strange that because you dont want to work on yourself and making a business work you blame that on others hmmmmmmmm.. Another one that wants the money but dont want to work for it… Im sorry but writing a review about a product that you tried and wanted it to do everything for you and when it didnt you give it a bad review. The mlm lead system pro does everything they say it will do. It is like anything else you do when you start it it takes time to start working it dont happen over night Sir.

be well
to your success

13 admin December 18, 2009 at 1:17 am

Tim, how do you think I got top ranked for MLSP, by not putting work in?

I have 15-20 blogs in the MLM and Internet Marketing niche and they all pull in $$$ daily, residual, too.

So before you cast aspersions, you might want to tone down the rhetoric a bit, because there’s no way in heck you’ll ever be at my level of SEO or marketing expertise. EVER…

Go read about SEO here >> http://linkvanareviews.com
Go brush up on your positivity and network skills here >> http://mlmnetworkmarketingtraining.org

And check out my still active MLSPro squeeze here >>> http://networkmarketingsecrets.org

I make sales despite using the default video squeeze page, which proves that they system does work, it’d just work better once I actually customize it. :)

Have a great day, MLM Lead system Pro is truly one of the latest things that will revolutionize net marketing and the more people who get on board with this, the better, for them

14 Dave Steffensmeier December 25, 2009 at 7:18 pm

Lead system pro took me 2 weeks to figure out how to set everything up. I am not the quickest learner but I am more persistent then most. Most people give up quickly. They give you a lot of you tube videos to set things up step by step. The branding part is up to the individual. The individual needs to create their own training videos. This helps them be a leader. Even with all the technology each person needs to brand themself as a leader. This is done by having value, continuing to learn to develop a good skill set. They do teach you how to generate leads, where to advertise, etc.. It still comes down to someone doing the work, and sharing with others. The goal is to make some money even off of prospects that say no to your primary business. This is done as members become paid members in your downline for MLM lead system pro, buy Mike Dillards products from you, and other marketing tools that help them with advertising. Then, even if 1 out of 100 leads sign up for your business it will be worth the wait because you made enough money selling marketing tools to pay for your advertising. As you help others out, they automatically will ask what you do. People are always looking for a leader so a percentage of them will join your business.

Have a great day!
Dave

15 admin January 3, 2010 at 8:50 am

Well said David!

My MLM LEad System Pro review at first was based on a reaction to believing too much in what the sales letter said, but once reality settled in I was a tiny bit disappointed, then became even happier again once I buckled down and saw how good this is for not just me, but for others, too.

I now tell people that MLM Lead System Pro should be an essential part of their network marketing business, and even if they continue to program hop, MLM LS Pro should be the solid static fixture in their business

16 Joey January 8, 2010 at 8:31 pm

Great review on MLM Lead System Pro. I personally use the system for my team and I. It is a great leveraging tool, especially for brand new people who come onto your team. Their weekly webinars are very helpful and the training section is quite extensive. I would endorse this for anyone who is new to the internet and wants to generate leads online.

17 Brian Dudley January 25, 2010 at 1:14 pm

A lot of great information on the comments section and the great thing about opinions and the internet is everyone is free to have theirs and present it. I am computer savvy but have a learning curve with marketing on the internet. MLSP is a system that brings together a lot of pieces for anyone to MARKET on the internet. The key word here is MARKET…
The philosophy of this systemis taking the very successful Mike Dillard Magnetic Sponsoring ideas and giving a toolbox instead of having to get each tool individually. So as I started we all have our opinions and I have mine too. Veteran online marketers already have the knowledge of the tools so might not be as attractive. New and Novice marketers wanting to bring their efforts online will greatly benefit from this system. If they are willing to be patient and give themselves time to learn the marketing secrets of Attraction Marketing.

18 Brian Dudley January 25, 2010 at 1:26 pm

I am sorry but I had to add this. I just clicked on the hyperlink on someones comment on this blog and it took me straight to their Network Marketing company generic website. Uhhhh isn’t this exactly what we don’t want?

19 admin January 28, 2010 at 12:52 am

Took me a while but I found the user who did that. And yes that’s what we’re trying to avoid here, EXACTLY

20 admin January 28, 2010 at 12:52 am

Well written Brian, thanks for the comment, added value,

Dan

21 Andrea Kropp January 31, 2010 at 4:47 pm

First of all..good job getting this review onto the front page of Google for “MLM Lead System Pro” as a keyword. That is power. Its that type of skill that the savvy marketer will get from MLSP. I agree that the standard welcome pages only sevre to brand Norbert and MLSP, but if you take the skills and apply them in a novel clever ways, its well worth the $47 a month. For example, I used what i learned to generate a blog site for my primary company’s products. I learn that skill from MLSP. I got that blog ranked on the front page of Google for people seeking our products. I learned that from MLSP. I put a capture page for my MLSP system on that site. I learned that skill from MLSP also. Now I have a site that sells’ my company’s products while i sleep and converts people into MLSP. I didn’t use their stuff directly, but rather used the knowledge they gave me.

You can check out how all my sites work together by visiting http://monavieboutique.com (my blog site) and http://andreakropp.com (my other blog site) and http://monavie.mlmsuccessauthority.com (my MLSP capture page)

22 admin February 1, 2010 at 9:40 pm

Thanks Andrea, I actually have 3 spots on page 1 for this term :)

I think it’s a mistake to use your primary program name in an MLSP site though, kind of gives away what your primary is.

Peddler sites should be kept seperate from lead generation, attraction marketing types of sites.

I learned that skill/method/practice/strategy from MLS Pro and personal experience :) .

Thanks,

Dan

23 Brian Dudley February 2, 2010 at 12:50 am

I see that Andrea is proudly promoting her Monavie business directly. Not really the mindset behind attraction marketing. Andrea if you are getting plenty of traffic that is because you have certainly put in the time on your blog to catch Googles attention and isn’t that what we really want to do? I am curious though I had heard Monavie had some really strict policies on marketing on the web. Can someone clear up for me?

24 admin February 2, 2010 at 12:54 am

Brian, I agree with you there as my last comment states.

However, having a subdomain with monavie in there usually isn’t a violation of net marketing programs TOS-es, you just can’t have real domains with company names in there usually.

Brian, if you have time, please contact me via Skype at Skype ID aikidoroll. I want to ask you something (kind of time sensitive)

Thanks,

Dan

25 Andrea Kropp February 2, 2010 at 1:28 am

I’m pursuing a BOTH/AND strategy. I only find customers via my monavieboutique.com site. There is no pitch to become a distributor. The product has such name recognition that plenty of people just want to buy it without being hassled about the business. At the other end of the spectrum, my personal blog has no mention of my primary business and there is no outbound link between the two. My point is that MLSP teaches generic skills.

MonaVie won’t allow me to have shopping cart functionality on my site until I hit Black Diamond. The way I read the TOS is that I can provide information as long as the actaul sales transction takes place on Monavie.com. that’s fine by me. I don’t want to have to store credit crads or ship products anyway.

26 admin February 2, 2010 at 11:42 am

Good response Andrea.

I also use the both/and strategy since both methods (“peddler sites” and generic mlm training sites) work.

And if it works for you, then there’s no need to change now, is there?

Keep up the good work,

Dan

27 Tara February 6, 2010 at 9:11 pm

ADMIN

I read through your whole article, as well as, the comments left by your readers. I find you contradicting your statements time and time again.

First you claim MLSP gives FALSE advertising because they do not allow you to brand yourself……….then you turn around and say, “I make sales despite using the default video squeeze page, which proves that they system does work, it’d just work better once I actually customize it”

….lol I find you are just quite humerus. Well why would you need to do that…since they don’t allow you to brand yourself?

You see, I have been using MLSP since day 1 and I have ran into many others just like yourself…TRYING to bash products to gain exposure! Guess what you, have succeeded at exposure however, you are not giving accurate reviews.

In MLSP we have STEP BY STEP vids and tutorials for setting up your system…TO BRAND YOU! Majority of the people who I have spoke to who claim false advertising, have NOT followed the steps as they were instructed….because had you done so….we show you how to create your own vids and how to recreate the squeeze pages using custom formatting.

As far as, your comment on the start up for video marketing….that’s a bunch of hogwash as well…

You Stated: “Simple to provide video production tips, like

put lights behind you
buy wireless mic (60 bucks)
use Sony Webby HD (200 bucks)
use a script (free to do)
use a tripod,costs less than 20 bucks
be in happy serene state of mind prior to shooting vid (free to do)”

Here’s my strategy:

-well lit area
-web cam w/ mic $15
-script…if you wanna sound like your monotone :) otherwise just be yourself…much more appealing
-put the cam on your computer for positioning (FREE)
-uncluttered environment (FREE)
-viddler and youtube (FREE)
-windows movie maker or camtasia ($$)

LOL you make it seem like people really have to go out of there way to get MLSP off the ground and you know what…I don’t have ANY fancy equipment and I have had steady traffic flow regardless.

Most people FAIL because they QUIT…

If you are unable to commit, how do you expect to profit? That’s with anything in life.

Cheers to your many other sites that you have available….but you might want to reconsider reviewing topics you have a bit more knowledge on next time!!!!

Tara

28 David Wood February 6, 2010 at 9:43 pm

Hey there, is it Dan?

A couple of quick thoughts on your review – first of all, a couple of things are outdated… We don’t sell any outsourcing at MLSP (large scale outsourcing is pretty much always a disaster for reasons I don’t have time to get into)

Second, you earn an affiliate commission off of every single upsell that MLSP has, every stage of the way. They’re not really advertised, and so I was ‘surprised’ when I got my first $95 commission from one of the upsells. (I’m the number 2 all time earner at MLSP and I’ve only been using it 4 1/2 months. Not only that, but I’m the #1 recruiter in my company, almost all of whom I recruited using this system)

Third, this is a little off subject, but you’re thinking wrong.

Now I don’t know how big your ACTUAL MLM team is, but I know that for most online MLM’ers, they have a HUGE frontline and almost zero depth in their organization.

There’s a reason for that. Online MLM doesn’t work for creating massive, sustainable organizations, ever. If it did, Mike Dillard wouldn’t have jumped on Top Tier a couple years back. It’s a good way to recruit, and a poor way to get big residual checks.

All online MLM is good for is a greatly enhanced way to recruit and earn a bunch of money from affiliate companies in the process. That’s it.

Personal branding doesn’t build massive downlines, it recruits a bunch of frontline leaders.

Why is MLSP a useful system? It’s useful because if you get the hang of it, it gives you a gigantic community of system users to build relationships with in addition to your own list, and you have potential business partners from a gigantic community.

Last, MLM income from a legitimate organization is way cooler than affiliate income anyways, and offline MLM leaders make way more money than any of the top tier guys, and any affiliate studlings there are (Mike D. included)…

MLSP is a cool community, a useful system (I’ve generated well over 10,000 leads in 4 1/2 months using it) and a great way to build relationships and the truth is….

…managing a company like MLSP sucks. I’d rather spend my time building a huge downline team than doing what brian, norbert, and todd do. Plus, I recruit more people into my MLM company than any of them do anyways, because they don’t have time for it.

Just the thoughts from a random top producer.

-David Wood

29 admin February 6, 2010 at 10:44 pm

Responses in bold:

I read through your whole article, as well as, the comments left by your readers. I find you contradicting your statements time and time again.

First you claim MLSP gives FALSE advertising because they do not allow you to brand yourself……….then you turn around and say, “I make sales despite using the default video squeeze page, which proves that they system does work, it’d just work better once I actually customize it”

My original disenchantment was with it not being customized off the bat, silly of me to think that. MLM LS Pro is very customiZABLE, just not fully customized, AS ADVERTISED, right off the bat. Splitting hairs there with semantics but it is what it is and the reality of what it really is is fine with me.

….lol I find you are just quite humerus. Well why would you need to do that…since they don’t allow you to brand yourself?

Not what I wrote or meant, but they are big hurdles to overcome just to host things on your own site, no? Yes, but again I’m a fan of MLM LS Pro or I wouldn’t have an aff link published for it.

P.S. I get the feeling you’re more angry than truly humored here.

You see, I have been using MLSP since day 1 and I have ran into many others just like yourself…TRYING to bash products to gain exposure! Guess what you, have succeeded at exposure however, you are not giving accurate reviews.

The review is accurate, I’m not bashing it, I am recommending it after all, just not on this site

In MLSP we have STEP BY STEP vids and tutorials for setting up your system…TO BRAND YOU! Majority of the people who I have spoke to who claim false advertising, have NOT followed the steps as they were instructed….because had you done so….we show you how to create your own vids and how to recreate the squeeze pages using custom formatting.

Exactly! And they did a thorough job there, too. It just wasn’t as easy to customize as they made it seem, which is really the “fault” of good copy not the owner’s fault

As far as, your comment on the start up for video marketing….that’s a bunch of hogwash as well…

You Stated: “Simple to provide video production tips, like

put lights behind you
buy wireless mic (60 bucks)
use Sony Webby HD (200 bucks)
use a script (free to do)
use a tripod,costs less than 20 bucks
be in happy serene state of mind prior to shooting vid (free to do)”

Here’s my strategy:

-well lit area
-web cam w/ mic $15
-script…if you wanna sound like your monotone :) otherwise just be yourself…much more appealing
-put the cam on your computer for positioning (FREE)
-uncluttered environment (FREE)
-viddler and youtube (FREE)
-windows movie maker or camtasia ($$)

Thanks for those tips, stuff like that would be helpful to make it easier to get more videos out the door for video noobs like me
LOL you make it seem like people really have to go out of there way to get MLSP off the ground and you know what…I don’t have ANY fancy equipment and I have had steady traffic flow regardless.

Uhm, yeah they do….. How else can something be truly customized to your name, face, site, personal customized video unless you do the work involved to customize yourself. That is the reality with ANY system you’d want to customize, and I am OK with that now that I got my reality check.

Most people FAIL because they QUIT…

If you are unable to commit, how do you expect to profit? That’s with anything in life.

I’ve been doing online marketing for 5-6 years or so, so there’s no quit in me nor are there any plans to do so, thanks for your motivational tips though. It’s true that persistence is really the main ingredient for anyone’s success no matter what their skill level or enterprise they’re involved in.

Cheers to your many other sites that you have available….but you might want to reconsider reviewing topics you have a bit more knowledge on next time!!!!

I’m still a member of MLM Lead system Pro, I am happy with the service, the review stands as it is since it’s a full review, and got updated over time to reflect changes in my opinion. Most reviews are written to sell something, real reviews tell both sides of the story.

MLM Lead System Pro works, as I stated… even if you don’t customize it with custom video squeeze pages.

And that’s a testament to the fact that it works, and would work really well if customized to its fullest extent.

30 admin February 6, 2010 at 11:07 pm

REPLIES IN BOLD

Hey there, is it Dan?

David nice to meet you, good job with your sites that I’ve seen out there

A couple of quick thoughts on your review – first of all, a couple of things are outdated… We don’t sell any outsourcing at MLSP (large scale outsourcing is pretty much always a disaster for reasons I don’t have time to get into)


Thanks for this update, as a product reviewer I always join and buy and test the products I review and don’t always have time to go back and update what the sites/services/programs are offering. At one point they DID have some sort of outsourcing option, I will update this review once I have a another look in the back office, thanks for the heads up.

Second, you earn an affiliate commission off of every single upsell that MLSP has, every stage of the way. They’re not really advertised, and so I was ’surprised’ when I got my first $95 commission from one of the upsells. (I’m the number 2 all time earner at MLSP and I’ve only been using it 4 1/2 months. Not only that, but I’m the #1 recruiter in my company, almost all of whom I recruited using this system)

Third, this is a little off subject, but you’re thinking wrong.

Now I don’t know how big your ACTUAL MLM team is, but I know that for most online MLM’ers, they have a HUGE frontline and almost zero depth in their organization.

There’s a reason for that. Online MLM doesn’t work for creating massive, sustainable organizations, ever. If it did, Mike Dillard wouldn’t have jumped on Top Tier a couple years back. It’s a good way to recruit, and a poor way to get big residual checks.

All online MLM is good for is a greatly enhanced way to recruit and earn a bunch of money from affiliate companies in the process. That’s it.

NOTE: David makes a good point here in several areas that might not be clear to other readers. What he’s saying without really saying it is: The money is in selling solutions, which all marketers need, not programs, because everyone’s got a program or 2 or 4 or 6 that they’re involved in. Focus on selling solutions to make easier sales and increased income and your downline and organizational depth will take care of itself.

Personal branding doesn’t build massive downlines, it recruits a bunch of frontline leaders.

I disagree. It does both actually. Branding makes people believers in YOU and makes recruitment a lot easier. It’s called pre-selling by branding, or just plain old attraction marketing. The better you brand yourself the higher quality people like frontline leaders will respond to you and approach you. They don’t want to give their dollars to “unworthy uplines” since they know the value of affiliation with like-minded folks.

Why is MLSP a useful system? It’s useful because if you get the hang of it, it gives you a gigantic community of system users to build relationships with in addition to your own list, and you have potential business partners from a gigantic community.

It’s also useful for allowing a system to handle and procure your sales for you, leaving you time to front-end-load your marketing system with more traffic to push more prospects through the funnel.

Last, MLM income from a legitimate organization is way cooler than affiliate income anyways, and offline MLM leaders make way more money than any of the top tier guys, and any affiliate studlings there are (Mike D. included)…

MLSP is a cool community, a useful system (I’ve generated well over 10,000 leads in 4 1/2 months using it) and a great way to build relationships and the truth is….

…managing a company like MLSP sucks. I’d rather spend my time building a huge downline team than doing what brian, norbert, and todd do. Plus, I recruit more people into my MLM company than any of them do anyways, because they don’t have time for it.

Just the thoughts from a random top producer.

-David Wood

Thanks for some constructive feedback David. Folks…read these comments carefully, successful people like David don’t get angry when they read what might be deemed conflicting opinions, they make enough money to explain THEIR side without insult or flaming others. Look at how David responded as opposed to the “angry” responders and you can sort of gauge who’s not angry at the world because the world has provided them with so much already. That’s how you assess true leaders, by their words and actions, not their claimed results. David IS a top producer though so listen to him. I know this for a fact because he sor to f”stole” one of my MLM Lead system Pro signups by NOT letting the guy get off the phone until he signed up. I have no issues with that because David worked harder for that sale than I did, therefore he deserves it.

DAVID: Question, how did you get MLM Lead System Pro to allow your site to appear on other people’s websites, after other people quit MLM Lead system Pro? In other words, someone approached me about re-joining MLM Lead System Pro and I gave him so advice on how to better use it the second time around. He showed me his URL and it had your information on there, therefore it was redirecting from his abandoned MLM LS Pro video squeeze page/domain over to yours. Is that a benefit of being a top producer for them?

This screenshot may help explain what I’m referring to

31 David Wood February 7, 2010 at 1:32 am

Dan,

the automatic rebranding of the sites is a cool feature built into mlsp for all affiliates. When someone quits, all of their leads, signups, etc flow back to you. Very cool.

A couple of thoughts in response here.

Personal Branding doesn’t build huge downlines. It just doesn’t. Now, we can think it does and preach that it does, but it doesn’t in practice and demonstration.

Look at the results. How many internet marketers do you know who don’t incorporate offline ‘old-school’ strategies who make $100,000 a month? I know exactly zero and I know most of the big wigs online personally.

However, I know a lot of people who make way more than that who don’t even know how to put up a blog, and have never produced an audio program.

Similarly, I know a lot of online marketers who have recruited thousands of distributors with zero residual income (that’s why the top online guys mostly join top tier programs – because all their ‘branding’ builds zero residual significance), but I know a whole bunch of offline MLM guys who no one has ever heard of who have sponsored less than 50 people and have half a million people in their team.

That’s a big difference. I’m not reaming on online marketing, I like it A LOT, and think it’s a cool way to build relationships, add value, and earn some money while you build a team. However, it’s not the best way to build a team – it’s just the best way to personally recruit a lot of people (if you’ve got the skill).

However, it’s the slowest way to duplicate a successful group that I’ve ever seen in my life, unless you add good ‘old school’ 1970′s ‘Amway’ tactics to the mix. (hey now, they are the biggest)

Now a mix between ‘old school’ and internet stuff – that’s magic, but no one does it but a few smart network marketers.

And no, most people aren’t ‘fishing’ for an upline. That’s one of those bull-crap horse phoey things we tell people online to get them to opt in. Burned out network marketers are (this isn’t a rule – just a generalization). Most people who get involved in network marketing get involved because their relative or good friend tells them about it and they get pumped about what they can do with the company.

That’s why companies tell distributors to talk to people they know – because 95% of the sales volume in any big MLM company comes from that simple, easy act that we spend so much time smacking on the internet.

ha ha.

Makes me laugh…

Anyways bro, I gotta run, enjoying the tropical weather down here in Costa Rica…

-Dave Wood

P.S. Thought I’d mention this – I don’t ‘hold’ people on the phone until they sign up. If someone said that they’re full of poo… (although that made me laugh pretty hard). You’re welcome to ‘steal’ that person back…

32 admin February 7, 2010 at 9:28 am

REPLIES IN BOLD

Dan,

the automatic rebranding of the sites is a cool feature built into mlsp for all affiliates. When someone quits, all of their leads, signups, etc flow back to you. Very cool.

David, that IS a pretty cool feature. It’d make sense if MLM Lead System Pro actually told people that before they quit, as a fear/loss type of thing. I guess if I sold more memberships I’d be aware of that eh?

A couple of thoughts in response here.

Personal Branding doesn’t build huge downlines. It just doesn’t. Now, we can think it does and preach that it does, but it doesn’t in practice and demonstration.

OK, to be clear here, all I was saying is that branding helps build reputation, is part of the pre-selling mechanism, and leads to easier signups. If you didn’t go around telling people you got 10k subscribers in 4 1/2 months, nor if you told them you were a top producer, then you’d probably get lower conversions rates. Branding makes it easier, is my point. You still need offline distributors to build huge downlines. That, or just attract the right kind of people to you, and they in turn “spill the beans ” on whatever it is y’all involved in for organizational growth.

NOTE: David this type of information deserves to be front and center and written more clearly so others will truly understand it, not buried way down inside some blog comments on an obscure product review. Therefore, I’m inviting you to be a guest author on my REAL network marketing site to write some guest author posts. http://mlmnetworkmarketingtraining.org I’m only accepting 10 guests to write there, for reasons that will be clear in about a month or so.

Look at the results. How many internet marketers do you know who don’t incorporate offline ‘old-school’ strategies who make $100,000 a month? I know exactly zero and I know most of the big wigs online personally.

However, I know a lot of people who make way more than that who don’t even know how to put up a blog, and have never produced an audio program.

So do I… At first my reaction is “geez, this guy’s a dinosaur”… but the more people like this I meet the more I see that this is how/where most real empires are built

Similarly, I know a lot of online marketers who have recruited thousands of distributors with zero residual income (that’s why the top online guys mostly join top tier programs – because all their ‘branding’ builds zero residual significance), but I know a whole bunch of offline MLM guys who no one has ever heard of who have sponsored less than 50 people and have half a million people in their team.

That’s a big difference. I’m not reaming on online marketing, I like it A LOT, and think it’s a cool way to build relationships, add value, and earn some money while you build a team. However, it’s not the best way to build a team – it’s just the best way to personally recruit a lot of people (if you’ve got the skill).

The skill needed here is to “live the life” and “always be on”. The marketers I know who did nothing but offline stuff are always in “pitch mode” so to speak. They’re happy, they’re living life well, they’re letting others know about it, people want to be like them, people want some of what they got, so thes eoffline marketers share what they “got” with others, and they kick butt.

However, there’s more money and more sales in offline world period, so this is all nothing new

However, it’s the slowest way to duplicate a successful group that I’ve ever seen in my life, unless you add good ‘old school’ 1970’s ‘Amway’ tactics to the mix. (hey now, they are the biggest)

Now a mix between ‘old school’ and internet stuff – that’s magic, but no one does it but a few smart network marketers.

And no, most people aren’t ‘fishing’ for an upline. That’s one of those bull-crap horse phoney things we tell people online to get them to opt in. Burned out network marketers are (this isn’t a rule – just a generalization). Most people who get involved in network marketing get involved because their relative or good friend tells them about it and they get pumped about what they can do with the company.

I disagree here, based on limited experience. During a product launch for a new program, I got ranked #1 for program name + contact, and program name + sponsor, and my tracking stats showed a lot of searches for these terms for a little while. And some of those people turned out to be real producers, one was top leader in another company. I do sort of see your point that burnt out marketers might be search or fishing for uplines, yeah….because they either haven’t received real leadership or training yet, or just didn’t want to break through comfort zones to do what’s necessary to achieve real results in MLM/Network Marketing, like going offline, picking up the phone, proactive recruiting, self-promotion, branding etc….

That’s why companies tell distributors to talk to people they know – because 95% of the sales volume in any big MLM company comes from that simple, easy act that we spend so much time smacking on the internet.

ha ha.

Makes me laugh…

Oh, you mean sharing with friends and family and warm markets… Yes, is still does work if done properly, pre-selling is needed here too believe it or not, as mentioned previously you have to make believers out of people either in the opportunity, the dream or just in you, or all 3 :)
Anyways bro, I gotta run, enjoying the tropical weather down here in Costa Rica…

-Dave Wood

P.S. Thought I’d mention this – I don’t ‘hold’ people on the phone until they sign up. If someone said that they’re full of poo… (although that made me laugh pretty hard). You’re welcome to ’steal’ that person back…

Makes no difference to me, was passing along “anecdotal evidence” and/or hearsay is all. Again, though, you’re invited to be a guest author on that other blog. Just say “yes” and I will send you some log in details

33 Bill Ashton February 8, 2010 at 2:10 am

This is a reply to David Woods Message, I actually signed up with MLM Lead System Pro Under David Wood, He has completely laid out how he builds his leads with the system for anyone that joins. I’ll tell ya, it really works when you put in the effort.

Bill Ashton

34 admin February 8, 2010 at 8:52 am

Hey folks, if you’re going to leave a comment let’s keep it on point here, which is to discuss the merits or lack thereof, of MLM Lead System Pro.

Thanks,

Dan

35 Andrea Kropp February 19, 2010 at 2:09 am

I’m definitely disappointed with the new Conquer the Internet capture page. It is in no way customizable. No custom text, no custom image and no video options.

That wouldn’t be a big deal if the sales page wasn’t a continuation of the story featuring Norb, Brian and Todd. If you use a different capture page to be able to put your own voice into it, the story gets cut in two.

I joined MLSP for the personal branding and am using a capture page with my video and my text. As I’ve checked around with some of the system leaders it seems to be a mixe bag who is using it and who isn’t.

If anyone has any ‘pull’ with Norb, Brian and Todd, can we set a Sales page that isn’t a continuation of the yacht story please?

All things considered, not a huge deal. I just don’t see it as the huge positive change it is being promoted as. A big positive for the MLSP creators, yes. I find it neutral at best for the users.

Andrea

36 Kurt Henninger February 20, 2010 at 1:27 pm

Daniel,

Great unbiased review here on MLM lead system pro.

It is a good system overall, but definitely not the be all and end all that people claim it to be.

Overall its a good stepping stone to bigger and better things, and a great starting point for those looking to bring their MLM business online.

Ultimately, however, you are going to need your own unique message and learn true marketing skills.

37 Daniel McGonagle February 20, 2010 at 9:40 pm

Yeah, Kurt I agree, it’s good but not the end-all be-all. It’s merely an funded propsoals/attract marketing system pre-made for you, and I believe that is great for newbies and eventually not needed for intermediates.

Kurt give me a call back some time, i left you a VM about something important

Thanks,

Dan

38 Jack Kuhry March 31, 2010 at 10:46 am

Thanks for your intake on MLSP, you wrote a very good article. Of course there is always things to worrry about when you join a system, but in the long run it can definitely improve your lead pull by 100%. Without the use of a system these days, I believe there not much hope for your present MLM business to succeed.

39 Jeremy Raglin April 9, 2010 at 2:46 pm

I’ve been using My Leads System Pro for just over 1 month now and have gained a lot of marketing knowledge in a short period of time.

Anyone who gets involved with MLSP should also get all of Mike Dillards products as well because most of the major marketers these days orginally got their start from the information they learned from Mike Dillard.

40 Daniel McGonagle May 3, 2010 at 1:27 pm

Thanks for the feedback Jack. I see they changed their name to MY lead system pro now, which is interesting in a lot of ways

41 Gregory Elfrink August 11, 2010 at 7:30 am

Dude… this post is mostly way off base.

Sorry to disagree with you here, but it totally is.

First off, my best friend in the industry is the #1 earner in his company and he did it all by using MLSP’s philosophy.

Second of all, MLSP is totally customizable. I mean how lazy it is to say it is not? All you have to do is upload a video to Youtube, take the embed code and put it in the video slot for whatever campaign you want.

Saying MLSP is doing false advertising cause they don’t already have a video of you is purely nonsensical.

The fact of it is, it is totally customizable. My entire funnel basically is customized to me. And I never recruited anyone significant into my downline before I started using MLSP.

The truth of the matter, most people who get into MLSP will fail just like they failed in using traditional methods (Which also work by the way) not because they don’t work, but for the most part people are lazy and it is easier to just be a failure and blame the system as a scapegoat for their own poor decisions.

I have no clue what you’re talking about on the upsells, I get commission checks from them so… haha.

Also for people generating tons of leads to MLSP, selling affiliate products but not recruiting anyone into your downline, the main reason comes to lack of interaction with those leads.

In my opinion it is crucially important to actually call these leads, build rapport and relationships with them.

And the system’s main purpose is to take the “cold” out of the call. Cause basically these people will see you as a leader and will follow your advice.

I have even recruited realtors into my business before using MLSP, so it does not need to be networker specific.

You can even create entire campaigns that are company-specific not just network marketing.

Is it easy? No, but whoever the hell sold you on becoming a six-figure earner in any industry or business is easy… you got ripped off haha.

MLSP is a tool in the overall network marketer arsenal, just like BNI, chamber of commerce events, hotel meetings and the home parties.

As with any tool, some will be better with it than others.

Personally, MLSP is the number one arsenal in my book to being able to leverage myself.

By the way, noticed some comments talking about the inability to customize the sales page. An easy fix to this is just using a Welcome Page template, there is one that has no link that leads to a sales page and so you can simply put up a video presentation there and some text.

That is normally what I do with my opportunity presentations.

Also, they are coming out with customized sales pages and letters that users can re-write to brand them better and tell their own stories.

The one thing I do really agree with your post though is that the training is absolutely wroth the 47 bucks a month. It is fantastic, and thought the winners in internet marketing usually are on a first-come first-serve basis, a lot of their training will allow people to explode their businesses regardless of when they learn it. (Such as article and video marketing.)

Those are my thoughts and opinions, hope for anyone who read this post also read this comment to see the other side of the story =)

To the top,
-Gregory

42 Daniel McGonagle August 11, 2010 at 9:32 am

Dude, like…. read the updated review on this k.OMG! :)

Seriously not off base at all man, I know you’re a fan, no need to be defensive about it, I liked the program, made money with it, the upsells are there so you must be kinda blinded by your luv for MLS Pro if you don’t even realize they exist.

So tell me, how much of an effect did being in MLS Pro have for you, personallly? Not your buddies, not your friends, but you, personally, (dude)?

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